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JPH0635004B2 - Method for detecting chattering in cold rolling mill - Google Patents
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JPH0635004B2 - Method for detecting chattering in cold rolling mill - Google Patents

Method for detecting chattering in cold rolling mill

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JPH0635004B2
JPH0635004B2 JP60146820A JP14682085A JPH0635004B2 JP H0635004 B2 JPH0635004 B2 JP H0635004B2 JP 60146820 A JP60146820 A JP 60146820A JP 14682085 A JP14682085 A JP 14682085A JP H0635004 B2 JPH0635004 B2 JP H0635004B2
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vibration
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rolling mill
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五十男 船床
元伸 光成
清 久保山
義隆 井上
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    • BPERFORMING OPERATIONS; TRANSPORTING
    • B21MECHANICAL METAL-WORKING WITHOUT ESSENTIALLY REMOVING MATERIAL; PUNCHING METAL
    • B21BROLLING OF METAL
    • B21B38/00Methods or devices for measuring, detecting or monitoring specially adapted for metal-rolling mills, e.g. position detection, inspection of the product
    • B21B38/008Monitoring or detecting vibration, chatter or chatter marks
    • BPERFORMING OPERATIONS; TRANSPORTING
    • B21MECHANICAL METAL-WORKING WITHOUT ESSENTIALLY REMOVING MATERIAL; PUNCHING METAL
    • B21BROLLING OF METAL
    • B21B1/00Metal-rolling methods or mills for making semi-finished products of solid or profiled cross-section; Sequence of operations in milling trains; Layout of rolling-mill plant, e.g. grouping of stands; Succession of passes or of sectional pass alternations
    • B21B1/22Metal-rolling methods or mills for making semi-finished products of solid or profiled cross-section; Sequence of operations in milling trains; Layout of rolling-mill plant, e.g. grouping of stands; Succession of passes or of sectional pass alternations for rolling plates, strips, bands or sheets of indefinite length
    • B21B1/24Metal-rolling methods or mills for making semi-finished products of solid or profiled cross-section; Sequence of operations in milling trains; Layout of rolling-mill plant, e.g. grouping of stands; Succession of passes or of sectional pass alternations for rolling plates, strips, bands or sheets of indefinite length in a continuous or semi-continuous process
    • B21B1/28Metal-rolling methods or mills for making semi-finished products of solid or profiled cross-section; Sequence of operations in milling trains; Layout of rolling-mill plant, e.g. grouping of stands; Succession of passes or of sectional pass alternations for rolling plates, strips, bands or sheets of indefinite length in a continuous or semi-continuous process by cold-rolling, e.g. Steckel cold mill
    • BPERFORMING OPERATIONS; TRANSPORTING
    • B21MECHANICAL METAL-WORKING WITHOUT ESSENTIALLY REMOVING MATERIAL; PUNCHING METAL
    • B21BROLLING OF METAL
    • B21B11/00Subsidising the rolling process by subjecting rollers or work to vibrations, e.g. ultrasonic vibrations

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  • Mechanical Engineering (AREA)
  • Control Of Metal Rolling (AREA)

Description

【発明の詳細な説明】 この発明は、冷間圧延機におけるチャタリング検知方法
に関するものである。
Description: TECHNICAL FIELD The present invention relates to a chattering detection method in a cold rolling mill.

冷間圧延機において薄物、硬質材での高速圧延時に、圧
延機が異常振動(これをチャタリングと呼ぶ)を起し、
張力変動、ゲージ変動を発生させる。そして、この結果
ゲージ変動による品質、歩留の低下、更にはストリップ
の破断事故が発生する。
In a cold rolling mill, abnormal vibration (this is called chattering) occurs in the rolling mill during high-speed rolling of thin and hard materials,
It causes tension fluctuation and gauge fluctuation. As a result, quality and yield are deteriorated due to gauge fluctuation, and further, a strip breakage accident occurs.

そこで、この異常振動の検知方法として、例えば、特開
昭50−84445が提案されている。これはバックア
ップロールチョック、ワークロールチョック等に振動加
速度検出器を取付け、この検出値が一定値を越えたこと
により、異常振動を検知するものである。しかし、この
方法はロール軸受の損傷、チョックとハウジング間のガ
タなどに起因するノイズによる外乱が多い。またチャタ
リングの発生は圧延機の固有振動に関係し、その周波数
は一般に100〜200Hz の範囲内にあり、この範囲
内の振動数に対しては、振動の加速度検出は必ずしも好
適でない等の問題がある。
Therefore, as a method for detecting this abnormal vibration, for example, Japanese Patent Laid-Open No. 50-84445 has been proposed. In this system, a vibration acceleration detector is attached to a backup roll chock, a work roll chock, etc., and abnormal vibration is detected when the detected value exceeds a certain value. However, this method is often disturbed by noise caused by damage to the roll bearing, rattling between the chock and the housing, and the like. Further, the occurrence of chattering is related to the natural vibration of the rolling mill, and its frequency is generally within the range of 100 to 200 Hz, and there is a problem that the acceleration detection of vibration is not necessarily suitable for the frequency within this range. is there.

そもそもチャタリングとは、圧延ワークロール・バック
アップロールおよびスタンド等を含むロール系の固有振
動数で発振する自励振動であり、起振力としてはロール
摩耗・潤滑過不足などによるロールバイト内での激しい
中立点の移動と考えられている。従ってバックアップロ
ールの傷やロール駆動系のアンバランス等によりロール
系が加振されるチャタマークとは現象を異にしている。
本発明者は上記公知内容にさらに検討・解析を加え、 チャタリングが第3図で示される振動モデルで表わ
され、その1次モードであること。
In the first place, chattering is self-excited vibration that oscillates at the natural frequency of the roll system including rolling work rolls, backup rolls, stands, etc. It is considered to be a neutral shift. Therefore, the phenomenon is different from the chatter mark in which the roll system is vibrated due to scratches on the backup roll, imbalance of the roll drive system, or the like.
The inventor has further studied and analyzed the above-mentioned known contents, and the chattering is represented by the vibration model shown in FIG. 3 and is in its first-order mode.

この場合の振動方程式は m+kx=Fo+Fsinωt ここで x:上下方向変位 Fo:圧延荷重 Fsinωt :潤滑不良等による起振力 通常のミルの範囲でバネ定数・質量等を変えても、
ロール系の固有振動数が著じるしく変わることはなく、
大体100〜200Hz であること モーダル解析により、チャタリング発生時にはスタ
ンドパスライン近傍の水平方向で振動の振巾増大が比較
的大きいことを見出した。
The vibration equation in this case is m + kx = Fo + Fsinωt where x: Vertical displacement Fo: Rolling load Fsinωt: Exciting force due to poor lubrication, etc.
The natural frequency of the roll system does not change significantly,
It is approximately 100 to 200 Hz. It was found from a modal analysis that when chattering occurs, the amplitude of vibration is relatively large in the horizontal direction near the stand pass line.

一方、上記振動方程式からも明らかなように、チャタリ
ングは振動現象としてだけでなく圧延荷重の見掛け上の
変化としても検出可能とと考えられる。事実、この考え
方に立った提案が例えば特公昭54−38912に示さ
れている。しかしながら、ここに提案されている圧延荷
重や圧延速度のチャタリングによる変化は、その周波数
帯だけに注目したとしても、実際には第4図(a),(b)に
示すようにほとんど検出困難であり、しかも電源周波数
(50または60Hz )の高調波分(2次100または
120Hz,3次150または180Hz)などがノイズ
として侵入してくるため、たとえばチャタリング周波数
帯に注目してこの変化を拡大したとしても、ノイズも同
時に拡大され現実には非常にあいまいな判定とならざる
をえないといった問題がある。
On the other hand, as is clear from the above vibration equation, it is considered that chattering can be detected not only as a vibration phenomenon but also as an apparent change in rolling load. In fact, a proposal based on this idea is shown in, for example, Japanese Examined Patent Publication No. 54-38912. However, the change due to chattering of the rolling load and rolling speed proposed here is practically difficult to detect as shown in Fig. 4 (a) and (b), even if only the frequency band is focused. In addition, since harmonic components (second order 100 or 120 Hz, third order 150 or 180 Hz) of the power supply frequency (50 or 60 Hz) and the like come in as noise, for example, the chattering frequency band is focused and this change is expanded. Even so, there is a problem that the noise is also magnified at the same time, and the judgment is very ambiguous in reality.

本発明者は、さらに チャタリングによる見掛け上の荷重変動はむしろス
タンド間張力に顕著に出ること(第4図(c)) この張力変動は前述のの知見と相まってスタンド
の水平方向の振動を増大させ、この方向での振動による
チャタリングの検出を容易にしていることを見出した。
According to the present inventor, the apparent load fluctuation due to chattering is rather remarkable in the tension between the stands (Fig. 4 (c)). This tension fluctuation increases the horizontal vibration of the stand in combination with the above findings. , And found that it facilitates detection of chattering due to vibration in this direction.

また、このような100〜200Hz程度の低または中
間周波数の振動を比較解析する場合は、第7図に示すよ
うに、振動速度を検出するのが好ましく、仮に振動加速
度で検出しても振動速度に変換して比較するのが好まし
い。
Further, in the case of comparative analysis of such low or intermediate frequency vibrations of about 100 to 200 Hz, it is preferable to detect the vibration velocity as shown in FIG. 7, and even if the vibration acceleration is detected, the vibration velocity is detected. It is preferable to convert to and compare.

この発明は上記のような知見に基づき、前述の問題点を
解決できるようにしたチャタリング検知方法を提供する
ことを目的とするものである。
It is an object of the present invention to provide a chattering detection method capable of solving the above-mentioned problems based on the above knowledge.

この発明のチャタリング検知方法の特徴は、冷間圧延機
のハウジングに振動速度センサを取付け、このセンサの
信号を圧延機の固有振動帯域の信号のみを通すフィルタ
を通し、このフィルタを通った出力信号によりチャタリ
ングを検知するものである。
A feature of the chattering detection method of the present invention is that a vibration velocity sensor is attached to a housing of a cold rolling mill, a signal of this sensor is passed through a filter that passes only a signal in a natural vibration band of the rolling mill, and an output signal passed through this filter is passed. The chattering is detected by.

以下この発明の一実施例を図面を参照して説明する。図
中2は圧延機ハウジング1に取付けられた水平方向の振
動速度を検出するセンサである。チャタリング時のハウ
ジング1の振動モードからみて水平方向の振動を検出す
るのが最もよいが、鉛直方向の振動を振動速度センサ
2′で検出するようにしてもよい。
An embodiment of the present invention will be described below with reference to the drawings. Reference numeral 2 in the figure denotes a sensor attached to the rolling mill housing 1 for detecting a horizontal vibration velocity. It is best to detect the horizontal vibration when viewed from the vibration mode of the housing 1 during chattering, but the vertical vibration may be detected by the vibration speed sensor 2 '.

振動センサ2の振動波形を増巾器3によって増巾する。The vibration waveform of the vibration sensor 2 is widened by the widening device 3.

増巾された信号を圧延機の固有振動数帯域の信号のみを
通すフィルタ4を通す。これはチャタリングが圧延機の
固有振動数帯域で生ずることに着目してなされたもの
で、この周波数は一般に100〜200Hzの範囲であ
る。本実施例の圧延機の固有振動数は120〜130H
zであった。帯域フィルタ4で波された信号は整流回
路5で整流され、更に平滑回路6で平滑にされる。平滑
された信号は演算回路7に送られる。この演算回路7
は、例えばマイクロコンピュータで、デイジタル化され
たチャタリング振動の信号を予め設定された基準値と照
合して警報又は自動減速指令を出す。
The amplified signal is passed through a filter 4 that passes only the signal in the natural frequency band of the rolling mill. This is done by paying attention to chattering occurring in the natural frequency band of the rolling mill, and this frequency is generally in the range of 100 to 200 Hz. The natural frequency of the rolling mill of this embodiment is 120 to 130H.
It was z. The signal waved by the bandpass filter 4 is rectified by the rectification circuit 5 and further smoothed by the smoothing circuit 6. The smoothed signal is sent to the arithmetic circuit 7. This arithmetic circuit 7
Is a microcomputer, for example, which compares the digitized chattering vibration signal with a preset reference value to issue an alarm or an automatic deceleration command.

なお、振動速度センサの代りに振動加速度センサを用
い、積分して速度に直し、同様に増巾、帯域フィルタ処
理をしてもよい。
A vibration acceleration sensor may be used instead of the vibration speed sensor, and the speed may be integrated and corrected to the speed, and similarly, the amplification and band-pass filtering may be performed.

この発明のチャタリング検知方法は上記のようなもの
で、振動速度センサをハウジングに取付け、検出信号を
圧延機の固有振動数帯域のみを通すフィルタを通してチ
ャタリングを検出する構成とした事により、ロール組替
に支障を与えることなく、チャタリングを精度よく検知
することができる。
The chattering detection method of the present invention is as described above, and the vibration speed sensor is attached to the housing, and the chattering is detected through the filter that passes the detection signal only in the natural frequency band of the rolling mill. It is possible to detect chattering with high accuracy without affecting the operation.

本方法によるチャタリングの検出例を第5図に示す。各
検出量は100〜200Hz の帯域フィルタ通過後の波
形である。図に示すようにチャタリング発生時に明瞭に
振動速度のレベルが変化しているだけでなく、発生以前
にその兆候が表われており実際の操業に反映できる有効
な方法といえる。
An example of chattering detection by this method is shown in FIG. Each detected amount is a waveform after passing through a band filter of 100 to 200 Hz. As shown in the figure, not only the level of vibration velocity changes clearly when chattering occurs, but also the symptoms appear before it occurs, which is an effective method that can be reflected in the actual operation.

また、この事例からも明らかなようにスタンド間張力の
変動にも顕著な変化が認められる。従ってこれを検出量
とすることも考えられるが、チャタリング以外の要因で
変動することが多く、スタンドの振動速度のように明瞭
な変化が安定して起こる確実な検出量とは雲泥の差があ
る。
Also, as is clear from this case, a remarkable change is observed in the fluctuation of the tension between the stands. Therefore, it may be considered that this is the detected amount, but it often changes due to factors other than chattering, and there is a difference from the reliable detected amount in which a clear change such as the vibration speed of the stand stably occurs.

ここで、さらにロール回転数との関係をみると、第6図
に示すように全く無関係で、回転数の大小にかかわらず
一定の振動数であること、回転周期に一致するような変
動は認められずチャタマークとは異質な現象であること
が追確認された。
Looking further at the relationship with the roll rotation speed, as shown in FIG. 6, it is completely unrelated, that the frequency is constant regardless of the size of the rotation speed, and fluctuations that agree with the rotation cycle are recognized. It was not confirmed that it was confirmed that it was a phenomenon different from Chatamark.

【図面の簡単な説明】[Brief description of drawings]

第1図は圧延機ハウジングへの振動速度センサの取付状
態を示す説明図、第2図(a)、(b)は検出信号の処理系統
の1例及び各段階での波形を示す説明図、第3図は振動
モデルの説明図、第4図(a),(b),(c)は、それぞれ圧
延荷重、圧延速度及びスタンド間張力のチャタリングに
よる変化状況を示す説明図、第5図は本発明方法の振動
速度によるチャタリングの検出状態を、スタンド間張
力、圧延荷重、及び圧延速度の変化状況と対比して示す
説明図、第6図はロール回転数とチャタリング振動数と
の関係を示す説明図、第7図は振動基本量の周波数特性
を示す説明図である。 1……ハウジング、2,2′……振動速度センサ、 4……帯域フィルタ、7……演算回路。
FIG. 1 is an explanatory view showing a mounting state of a vibration speed sensor on a rolling mill housing, and FIGS. 2 (a) and 2 (b) are explanatory views showing an example of a detection signal processing system and waveforms at respective stages, FIG. 3 is an explanatory diagram of a vibration model, FIGS. 4 (a), (b), and (c) are explanatory diagrams showing changes in rolling load, rolling speed, and tension between stands due to chattering, and FIG. FIG. 6 is an explanatory diagram showing the state of chattering detection based on the vibration speed of the method of the present invention in comparison with the change in tension between stands, rolling load, and rolling speed, and FIG. 6 shows the relationship between the roll rotation speed and the chattering vibration frequency. FIG. 7 is an explanatory diagram showing the frequency characteristic of the basic vibration amount. 1 ... Housing, 2, 2 '... Vibration speed sensor, 4 ... Band filter, 7 ... Arithmetic circuit.

Claims (1)

【特許請求の範囲】[Claims] 【請求項1】冷間圧延機のハウジングに振動速度センサ
を取付け、このセンサの信号を圧延機の固有振動数帯域
の信号のみを通すフィルタを通し、このフィルタを通っ
た出力信号によりチャタリングを検知することを特徴と
する冷間圧延機におけるチャタリング検知方法。
1. A vibration velocity sensor is attached to a housing of a cold rolling mill, a signal of this sensor is passed through a filter which passes only a signal in a natural frequency band of the rolling mill, and chattering is detected by an output signal passed through this filter. A method for detecting chattering in a cold rolling mill, comprising:
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